What of their material do you own/have listened to?

I think their best album is a toss-up between the self-titled debut, Rage Against The Machine and their 3rd offering, Battle Of Los Angeles.

Their debut is the one a lot of fans look to as their zenith, with the tour de force tracks that are Killing In The Name and Bullet In The Head, backed up with excellent offerings such as Know Your Enemy, Bombtrack, and the under-rated Fistful Of Steel.

However, I'm more tempted by Battle of Los Angeles; Guerilla Radio is an all-time classic, supplemented by Calm Like A Bomb, Sleep Now In The Fire, and Born Of A Broken Man. And then ending on my personal favourite RATM tune, War Within A Breath.

Two classic albums. Other than that, Rage released a further two albums. Evil Empire was their second, beginning in blistering fashion with People Of The Sun, Bulls On Parade, and Vietnow. But it tails off a bit for me, after this.

Their last material was the Renegades album towards the arse-end of the 90's, nothing more than a cover album from artists ranging from Bob Dylan to Afrika Bambaataa. If you haven't heard it already, check out How I Could Just Kill A Man - particularly the live version with Cypress Hill on the Auditorium dvd.

Apologies if this partonises your knowledge, BR, but have you also heard of a band named Audioslave? Rage Against The Machine broke up shortly after 2000's Reading festival when lead singer, Zach De La Rocha quit the band. The remaining three members went on to form Audioslave, fronted by Chris Cornell - who you might recognise as the singer behind Casino Royale's theme tune. He is also the former frontman of Soundgarden, one of the leading late 80's / early 90's grunge bands.

If you haven't already, have a delve into some of Audioslave's material (they released 3 albums, the latest being last year). Start by downloading a track called Cochise. Quality band; different in style and not at the level of Rage Against The Machine, but meritable in their own right. And Cornell is a fabulous vocalist, though I find him overblown.

Cheers LG, that's a bit of help to me aswell. I have a few Rage albums, but have only really skinned over them. I'm in the process of adding some 'new' stuff to my collection and have always teased over Rage.

Ive only got the self titled album. But after hearing some of the tracks on it, Ive been encouraged to buy more. Their music wouldnt be what I would generally go for, but in their case I make an exception

Giles Peterson- The BBC sessions.Really good 2 disc compilation album.

NERD- In Search of/Fly or die
Kings of Leon- Because of the times/Aha shake hearbreak
Radio One Live Lounge

Put on a couple of albums today that I haven't listened to for a while, Jane's Addiction - Ritual De Lo Habitual and Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine. Two superb albums.

I liked Cornell when he was with Soundgarden as well, although I've only heard 'Black Hole Sun'.

What I'm listening to:

Of Montreal - Rapture Rapes the Muses
Of Montreal - Oslo in the Summertime
Of Montreal - Pancakes for One
Of Montreal - Bunny Ain't No Kind of Rider
Of Monteal - Tim, I Wish You Were Born a Girl

Good post Vin about the Beatles!



Yeah sorry I can't explain my point better. As I said my lack of knowledge on music theory prevents me from doing this. I will try to find the articles I read about it. I also watch a very good documentary about it but can't for the life of me remember the name of it now.




I brought up Joe Meek because I disagree with this comment here and was using him to prove a point. Please read what I am responding to and put it in context.

I cannot argue with you about the strings on Eleanor Rigby.



When did he say this? Can you put it into context for me? Lennon and Mcartney did have a very love hate relationship as they got older despite the fact they were like brothers when they were younger.



I think what was said about them at the start of there career cannot be used as an argument about there influence. As it refects little on what they became and did.

For me George Martin was massively important to the band and its sound but I think the song writing of Lennon and Mcartney was equally if not more important. But its all down to personal opinion.

Sorry, you seem to be trying to convince yourself more, than trying to convince me

As for Joe Meek, I know what you are trying to say..although not very clearly. But if you regard him as a pionner before Martin, just wonder what you make of his comment on the Beatles :

...just another bunch of noise, copying other people's music.

Lennon described McCartney as c**t after Tony Visconti arranged the strings on the album 'Band On The Run' (suprisingly one of my top 25 albums ever ) and failed to get credit it for. David Bowie and May Pang were also present at the time. Visconti finally received a credit on the re-mastered version 25 years later.

Then why did you say you didn't understand my argument. You keep going back on what you saying and twisting it. Saying George was the first and then he wasn't.

As for Joe Meeks' opinions on the Beatle I consider them to be as valid as anyone elses including my own. Everyone is entitled to that.

This arguement is going round and round in circles.



Interesting satuff. Didn't know about that. Mcartney always was pretty arrogant.

Never said he was Bob. Taken from my original post :

Of course, even before George Martin music production was being revolutionised by Bing Crosby and Les Paul, but I digress...

The Kings of Leon- Aha Shake Heartbrake. I absolutely love this album

Travis - Closer (TUNE)

Have fallen into the world of Blind Melon.
I have no idea what the tunes are called, just downloaded them about 7-8 of them.
I love it.

I'm feeling the KOL love, I saw them on their recent tour. amazing!

I saw the Kings of Leon in Brixton after their first album. It was one, if the not the most enjoyable gig I have ever been to.
I remember they did "Molly's Chambers", slowed down, the entire song, very psychadelic. Then they belted out the original version. That memory will stay with me for a long time.
A fanatstic live band.

That and I bumped into one of my old school teachers that night at the gig. You know the "cool" teacher at school. We got drunk and talked of music. I loved that night.